tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post5939701671881574058..comments2023-09-19T07:49:17.027-07:00Comments on Flat Earth Insanity: Flat Earth Follies: High Altitude Balloon footage PROVES Flat EarthDark Starhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-1857406462787407382017-09-22T10:25:26.427-07:002017-09-22T10:25:26.427-07:00I am fighting with this for 2 years now, I try not...I am fighting with this for 2 years now, I try not to let people fall for it, because even if it is beautiful, it is not working... Please don't let OBSCURANTISM win over us. We've learn earth's shape 500 years ago from Galillée and we can run the tests and prove it to ourselves ALONE today. Just DO IT. Don't assume because you read something, see a video or even just because it could be.<br /><br />Nothing disproves the globe model<br />Many things disprove the flat model<br /><br />It is as easy as that. TRUTH is an utopic word, TRUTH depend on context, on observer, on metrics also... (look, water boils at 100 degrees right? it is true? most people say YES SURE. WRONG : depends also the pressure, so the High level will change results.<br /><br />This is why ask you this instead. Which model solves the most problems?<br /><br />If you are honest (seriously not bullshitting bout what NASA provides to us, or the supposed conclusions based on nothing.; Dont say things, VERIFY THEM) So, if you are honest you will find out in your very deep inner mind if you are right or wrong.<br /><br />You really seem so convinced that I'm pretty sure you will end up finding it is a globe and not say it. Or just reject everything because you're too proud of "what you've discovered" unfortunately we've been there already, a bunch of people, and most of us came back disappointed because there were nothing to be find.<br /><br />Governments lie, everybody does, lot of stories are being told that are invented, created for domination purposes but Earth is still a globe :(<br />Best of luck in your deep researchesReaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01684352995643324930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-79445878035280952652017-09-22T10:25:04.259-07:002017-09-22T10:25:04.259-07:00Anyway if you don't believe in any kind of pic...Anyway if you don't believe in any kind of pictures of calculs or what scientist say, then you should investigate by yourself. What does make you think it is globe or flat since you've never experienced neither.<br />Just prove to yourself, nothing else matters. I've done that, I was FLAT EARTH theory seduced by. Whatever I tried to get more prove that it is flat that globe I FAILED.<br /><br />I really believe Flat Ethers are a little bit dishonest because deep inside you know you did't make the test. You just don't know and it is way better to believe a conspiracy where you are enlightened while others are blind.<br />It is almost a fantasy let's be honest.<br /><br />BTW Antartica is full of oil under, diamond, gold and whatever material you look for. Imagine, since it is an undiscovered unexploited LAND under ice, it is fuckin RICH. <br />So yep, they go for ressources. As they did in Irak or wherever USA goes to get the most ressources they can.<br /><br />Afterall I seek for reality, I am a skeptical I doubt everything I know, everything I see.<br />I you want we can discuss about man landing moon, i insist, MAN landing moon. this is something I doubt for example. Not that we sent devices, but that we sent HUMANS there it is pretty unlikely since we lost astronauts few years before... Anyway, I am open to re-think the given truth. But when you find out it really is true you need to be honest with yourself and with people around you.Reaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01684352995643324930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-34850484705738483702017-09-22T10:24:34.949-07:002017-09-22T10:24:34.949-07:002/ SIGMA OCTANTS : Ahhhh Sigma my dear, you are su...2/ SIGMA OCTANTS : Ahhhh Sigma my dear, you are such a wonderfull spotlight on the dome.. ugh or should I say blowing mind extraordinary star far away in the universe ?<br />Lets see which works and which doesn't AT ALL.<br /><br />Imagine your earth as a flat plane, with the dome surrounding it and the ice well around the circumference. Ok you picture it ? tis is YOUR earth ok, it's the one you say it's true. So you have to accept the reality that it includes.<br /><br />At North pole Stars turn around North star because it is right on the top of the ceiling of the dome for Flat Earthlings. For Globe earthlings it is still demonstrated because of the axe of the planet.<br /><br />Anyway lets talk about the SOUTH now. So we agree that the dome is curved on the center because it is a dome.. so it is pretty normal that we see the stars turning around the center. Now when you look at the south, well I mean at the Ice wall that surrounds us. The sky upon is nothing more that the bottom sides of the dome that is around us.<br />So starting from this principle, do the stars there should not be going from East to West or West to East ? like following the horizon in a parallel movement ?<br />yeah actually it MUST. there is no other solution for a dome. Sorry but that is the cold true, the stars are instead spinning around SIGMA Octantis.<br />That means that the earth is curves on the top but also on the bottom. That leads us to a round shaped bowl..<br /><br />I had also all those questions in mind you know but, afterwords I've proven to myself with research, calculs observations that the globe model matches ways better and answers more questions than the flat one, who opens thousands of other questions that cannot be answered.<br /><br />BTW we have now pictures non CGI of full earth, made by DSCVR.<br />Compare Apollo 17 with DSCVR you will see CGI and NO CGI difference is obvious.Reaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01684352995643324930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-73956416660816118222017-09-22T10:23:47.942-07:002017-09-22T10:23:47.942-07:001/ STAR LOCATION : Explain me how on a flat Earth ...1/ STAR LOCATION : Explain me how on a flat Earth I've measures Sirius same day same hour from 3 different locations and these are my results :<br /><br />From Mansfield UK <br />longitude 1,206<br />latitude 53,1433<br />angle 20,159<br /><br />Then in Shetland up north<br />longitude 1,206<br />latitude 60,369<br />angle 12,958<br /><br />Since calculs are going to be thrown away, its NASA metrics or whatever people say, then you draw it :) ... Easy. two points separated by the distance of Shetland and Mansfield. then one is 13 degrees from the soil and the other is 20 degrees. See where both lines cross ? Well, there is no such as Sirius star there NOT AT ALL I've ran all the tests like this one and it always shows that we're on an oblate, ovale or ovoid, call it what you want but for sur there is people all AROUND this planet. We are definitely not all aligned on a plane surface unfortunately. <br /><br />If you don't believe these calculs are accurate try it with a spotlight on your ceiling you will see that it is right.<br /><br />OK maybe you reject modern sciences and mathematics, maybe you believe this nothing more tan numbers?<br /><br />No problem let's talk about something else, which is :Reaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01684352995643324930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-41485882746747838102017-09-22T10:23:09.752-07:002017-09-22T10:23:09.752-07:00Excuse me you speak about EGO ? isn't the flat...Excuse me you speak about EGO ? isn't the flat earth theory a fuckin EGO trip ?? Why is flat theory ? Because if its not a globe, Flat Earth = Geocentrism = We are the center, not somewhere random in space = Human specie is unique = no universe = no evolution = creation of GOD = FUCKIN BIG HUMAN EGO.<br /><br />So, lets follow now with accurate arguments... Every single thing you said is unprovable and I can do it for each point you write here.<br /><br />First you need to learn about gravity, that element thats "doesn't exist" but still you see it everywhere around you even if you think its density(which amuse me a lot if you knew what's density also).<br /><br />Anyway, lets talk.<br />To summarize everything you say is supposition or assumptions. <br />I can't see any fact here that proves flat earth. I can only see that you take conclusion from questioning yourself. Is it because you don't see sound, that it doesn't exist ? or waves ? or so many things in our reality that we can't see or feel but still exist as you and I do?<br /><br />If gravity doesn't exist then even if we are on a flat earth motionless how comme the earth is floating ? is it hookep to a rope ? Is it just standing on a table like a plate ? Are we the food in it ??<br /><br />Let's be serious.Reaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01684352995643324930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-42628748595895239272017-09-19T13:47:14.454-07:002017-09-19T13:47:14.454-07:00That's why I added the two new lower-altitude ...That's why I added the two new lower-altitude images at the bottom, they are closer to center and can be compared with the Figure 7 directly (same camera). I also have a guy who is working on take multiple images of the centered horizon and making a little video so we can see the growth in the curvature.<br /><br />I'll post that once we have it.Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-72176820089210252782017-09-17T19:12:03.261-07:002017-09-17T19:12:03.261-07:00I checked, and I believe you talked about this in ...I checked, and I believe you talked about this in the article, but the one in Figure 3 is a little below the center mark, is the one at the high altitude the same distance from the center mark?<br />And also, would it make a difference that the camera isn't level like in the other photo?<br /><br />That's one of the big issues with lens distortion, you have to be very precise.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15131591713017876103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-11191801399138992412017-09-14T12:15:45.992-07:002017-09-14T12:15:45.992-07:00I actually did (see Figure 3: Horizon through lens...I actually did (see Figure 3: Horizon through lens center is most accurate) but I'll admit it wasn't a very good example and I didn't update it when I redid the article using the RotoFlight footage.<br /><br />So, for now, I added two images from the RotoFlight footage at the bottom.<br /><br />You are right -- having these two show almost dead flat while the higher-altitude images are significantly curved when the horizon peak is centered very clearly shows that the higher altitude images are NOT the result of lens distortion and is very clearly showing a progressive amount of curvature.<br /><br />Thanks for the idea!Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-82651667542479357272017-09-10T21:19:10.129-07:002017-09-10T21:19:10.129-07:00it really is that fuckin simple. There is a reason...it really is that fuckin simple. There is a reason why all astronauts have to take an oath of secrecy! there is a reason why most if not all are all free masons as well! also accordingly one NASA physicist, we TODAY, do not have the technology to go to the moon. We had it but we destroyed it! . it's all a lie. Why? Easy, hiding land, 100%. 2) funding and support for space exploration goes out the fuckin window. So then they wouldn't be able to take that money and put it to what its really for which is other shit. 3, credibility, trust and power evaporates. That's fuckin simple. The fact that we even trust the same People that lieTo us daily is beyond me. if the earth is spinning at 1000 miles per hour, how in gods name would an air born stationary object land in the same exact spot or maintain its position throughout any amount of time if the earth is spinning at that speed? That is impossible. How would a flight from LA to NEW YORK take almost the exact same amount of time as a flight from New York to LA if the earth is spinning 1000 mikes per hour going in the exact opposite direction as a plane traveling 500 mph? Why do no commercial flights ever cross over Antarctica to go from South America to Australia? Why does a trip to Antarctica cost 40-75k, always take place on a plane with no windows? why are all arctic trip websites controlled by one man who works for the government? Why does The CIA FUND THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES GOOGLE EARTH WITH ALL THEIR SOACE AND EARTH IMAGES? THAT MEANS THE CIA CONTROLS GOOGLE EARTH! Why? Why would our schools never teach us about Augusta piccard the first man in deep sea and the first man in high altitude earth? Could it be because he said this: "the earth was a flat disc shape with upturned edges". Who in 1931 before NASA was even born, actually did both? something so historical was never taught to us in school! But I remember learning about the first man on the moon which never happened. Or have you asked why they never taught you about tesla who was the one actually responsible for about 90% of Thomas Edison's work? Could it be because TESLA destroyed the theory of gravity? They taught us about Einstein, the man who called tesla the smartest man on earth! so to all you global moron who have never in your life questioned the globe theory. NONE OF YOU can answer any of those. Why? Because your fuckin ego is so goddamn large, you can't help but deny that you've been fuckin lied to your whole life! your at the mercy of scientist because they're scientists. You have no choice but to take their word for it because of their title. you're no better than a sheep or a barking seal.rockstardadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13108718970465278960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-43514367120181478692017-09-10T21:18:49.588-07:002017-09-10T21:18:49.588-07:00The only fuckin reason the globe theory even exist...The only fuckin reason the globe theory even exists is 1) EGO, 2) "gravity" which really doesn't fuckin exist. And you don't need to be a fuckin physicist nor astro physicist to figure it out. There is a reason they start teaching us about our solar system at such a YOUNG AGE. Why? To ingrain it in us so much that we don't ever question it. And no one ever questions it ever. It's been made TABOO to even have the thought of flat earth even though flat earth is older than the globe theory! 1) gravity is easily disproven. NOT ONE, scientist can explain what gravity is. Gravity is the only thing that keeps the globe theory alive. Every object has a gravitational pole right? so the earths gravitational pole is strong, it can hold and "curve" trillions of pounds of water (which it's fact BODIES of water cannot curve or bend)which make up 71% of our earths surface. But it can't bring down a fuckin bird? how the fuck does a balloon full of air fall, but a balloon full of helium float? Does gravity discriminate against helium? Or is it because HELIUM IS LIGHTER THAN the AIR AROUND IT? This allowing it to float? IF THE OBJECT IS HEAVIER THAN THE AIR AROUND ITIT WILL FUCKIN SINK OR FALL!!! PERIOD! There is no fuckin gravity! if gravity exists, than a pound of feathers and a pound of brick should NOT FALL AT THE SAME EXACT TIME! But they do, why? BECAUSE THEY BOTH WEIGHT THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT MORE THAN THE AIR AROUND THE OBJECTS. NASA nor any country has ever been able to provide one fuckin picture of the earth that was not CGI. In 1968 we put a man on the moon(Lmaoo) but leaking 2018 not one real picture of our planet! They tell us the sun is 93 million miles away and that it's a ball of gas 100 times our size! Yet there are videos and picture of the sun setting IN BETWEEN CLOUDS! so 93 millions miles means in our earths atmosphere I guess! Lmaoo. We're supposed to be able to see the earths curvature at 40k feet, yet at 115k feet with a high altitude balloon with NO FISH EYES LENSE which is 3 times the altitude were told, our horizon is completely and 100% FLAT! HOW? ITS ALL BULLSHIT! rockstardadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13108718970465278960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-73396040103144134242017-09-07T21:32:54.408-07:002017-09-07T21:32:54.408-07:00You forgot to test whether there was curvature of ...You forgot to test whether there was curvature of the horizon at a low altitude when the camera is at dead center.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15131591713017876103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-37546998015106617822017-01-31T11:16:16.468-08:002017-01-31T11:16:16.468-08:00I'm sure you could but the analysis wouldn'...I'm sure you could but the analysis wouldn't be the same because the mathematical model of the lens-system is different than curvilinear or rectilinear. But there is software that does that mapping and I'm sure there are papers published on how to transform to and from that coordinate system.<br /><br />Flat Earthers would just say it's fake or "curved lens" and move on -- they aren't interested in evidence or facts.Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-62559634416481924402017-01-23T11:00:46.138-08:002017-01-23T11:00:46.138-08:00Flat Earth is the perfect way to think you're ...Flat Earth is the perfect way to think you're smart when you're completly uneducated. Nataliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166218520508457266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-75098667254148763682017-01-22T12:53:02.872-08:002017-01-22T12:53:02.872-08:00Excellent! I especially like the emphasis on the f...Excellent! I especially like the emphasis on the fact that this is not so called 'proof'. There seems to be a big misunderstanding about what 'proof' is. Proof is for mathematicians and alcoholics, right?<br /><br />Do you think it would be possible to do a similar analysis of high altitude footage, made with one of those 360 degree camera's? Like this one:<br /><br />360 Degree High-Altitude Balloon Flight - UA ASCEND 2016 Spring <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPtO2hVXbfM<br /><br />My intuition tells me it should be possible to identify points that are diametrically opposed to each other, and this way you should be able to show that the horizon is not at eye level. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01605944791669363657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-14058446198309709282017-01-21T12:22:18.451-08:002017-01-21T12:22:18.451-08:00Liftin Heavy -- I think you've been hitting th...Liftin Heavy -- I think you've been hitting the juice too hard.<br /><br />I did watch the whole video which is why I proved an in depth analysis of why the specific image I picked is an accurate view of the horizon curvature -- BECAUSE it is BELOW center where the distortion would FLATTEN THE HORIZON, not artificially enhance it.<br /><br />Analysis which you COMPLETELY and dishonestly ignored and did nothing to counter.<br /><br />All too typical of uneducated Flat Earthers.Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-85733736932104001872017-01-14T11:17:37.219-08:002017-01-14T11:17:37.219-08:00You could just as easily created a scaled flat mod...You could just as easily created a scaled flat model that rises forever and watch what happens to the horizon...<br /><br />Ya junior, world is flat, it can't be hidden. Thermal imaging, reflections, your eyes, all prove it's flat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-50336201340212492102017-01-14T11:11:40.217-08:002017-01-14T11:11:40.217-08:00Yet if you watch the actual video, you can clearly...Yet if you watch the actual video, you can clearly see the horizon bending upwards and downwards as the balloon bobs, which means the horizon is flat as it crosses the center point.<br /><br />Sorry Junior, you lose, earth is flat.<br /><br />Next time for some real fun, why don't you pause the video when the horizon is curved upwards to really mess with people's minds. Tell them they actually don't live on earth but live above it...<br /><br />To think you wasted all this time trying to perpetrate garbage, when all someone has to do is go watch the actual video.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-33214695823801268942017-01-01T18:29:00.527-08:002017-01-01T18:29:00.527-08:00That is pure AWESOME -- I've been thinking abo...That is pure AWESOME -- I've been thinking about adding such a thing to my calculator: https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.ca/p/fei-horizon-calculator.html Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-14198078323923580572016-12-18T17:31:09.238-08:002016-12-18T17:31:09.238-08:00Hi. I programmed in JavaScript a simulation of how...Hi. I programmed in JavaScript a simulation of how curvature looks from a given hight, aperture, feld of view and aspect ratio of the image. You can interactively change all parameters with sliders in a large range. You can also compair the globe model with the flat earth model on the same picture. To show the correctness of the calculations, I overlayed the calculated grids onto some real images from high altitudes where all data are known. The grid maches exactly the image. See my blog (in german):<br /><br />http://walter.bislins.ch/blog/index.asp?page=Flat%2DEarth%3A+Wie+stark+ist+die+Kr%FCmmung+der+Erde%3FAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10656625613019301608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-24464240143991194552016-12-01T14:58:10.506-08:002016-12-01T14:58:10.506-08:00It does show a curve, exactly where it should give...It does show a curve, exactly where it should given a Globe Earth of 3959 mile radius.<br /><br />Please do a post of equal rigor explaining how the distance to the horizon on your Flat Earth JUST HAPPENS to exactly match what we would expect on a Globe.Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-36336074962689369662016-11-30T17:28:32.612-08:002016-11-30T17:28:32.612-08:00It should show a curve - what we say is that it is...It should show a curve - what we say is that it is flat but round, like a dinner plate if you like. NOT A GLOBEvicbuttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12907443493070878467noreply@blogger.com