tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post3923433105889749357..comments2023-09-19T07:49:17.027-07:00Comments on Flat Earth Insanity: Flat Earth Follies: The Horizon Always Rises To Eye LevelDark Starhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-67396332573414573232017-09-22T22:33:07.875-07:002017-09-22T22:33:07.875-07:00Dude, the earth is flat no matter how much pseudos...Dude, the earth is flat no matter how much pseudoscience you impress yourself with. It's laughable how bad u want to live on a spinning ball. Get a grip. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12472921356553756366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-16937616429793006702017-09-14T11:27:17.743-07:002017-09-14T11:27:17.743-07:00>> quite the tantrum for someone who's n...>> quite the tantrum for someone who's not willing to do this simple test<br /><br />Please share where YOU tested this yourself in a way that is verifiable and repeatable.<br /><br />For example, verifiable mine uses the sensors in the phone to indicate LEVEL very clearly and I showed that it is accurate, regardless of the orientation of the device.<br /><br />For Repeatable, I have done it several times and I am, in fact, repeating the tests others have done and getting the same result. I'm using nothing more than an iPhone with the Theodolite app installed which makes this TRIVIAL for anyone to repeat. And in fact, MANY have.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/doctorbuttons/status/902628063908900865<br />https://twitter.com/wichor/status/905772452353073152<br />https://twitter.com/dwolfman54/status/901963727481827329<br />https://twitter.com/FlatSlugbrains/status/900757665550397442<br />https://twitter.com/FakeAstropix/status/898911034143932416<br />https://twitter.com/Nutt007/status/907388860145037312<br />https://twitter.com/Zaephou/status/900748283806613507<br /><br /><br />The Drop of the horizon with altitude has been known and measured since ANCIENT times:<br /><br />https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.com/2016/09/how-al-biruni-calculated-circumference.html<br /><br />So now what are you going to do?<br /><br />Let me guess -- you are going to pivot and say "well I didn't mean you could ACTUALLY SEE IT RISING cuz atmospheric density lensing perspective"?<br /><br />Yet, the higher we go the FURTHER we see -- so it seems the atmosphere doesn't work the way flerfers invent in their head to excuse every failure.<br /><br />I suggest you read up on refraction: http://aty.sdsu.edu/explain/atmos_refr/bending.html<br /><br />and then come back when you have PROVEN that any set of likely conditions explain the actual observations other than the Earth surface is curved as we've known for thousands of years.Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-35274031584673360442017-09-14T09:50:14.030-07:002017-09-14T09:50:14.030-07:00Funny because I took those pictures -- see updated...Funny because I took those pictures -- see updated post (I added about 13 of them). I address your post in detail and shared the images in question, and I linked to two more videos that utter demolish your claims.Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-25534281199073435072017-07-31T17:40:49.765-07:002017-07-31T17:40:49.765-07:00Wow, quite the tantrum for someone who's not w...Wow, quite the tantrum for someone who's not willing to do this simple test. Not having the camera perfectly level is a foolish way of doing this test! Make the camera level and the horizon will stay PERFECTLY IN THE MIDDLE from here to as high as we can go. That will prove the flat earthers claim, not his moronic, "but I used a lot of words" test.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12245387416961356076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-34362524500380902622017-07-27T14:35:04.174-07:002017-07-27T14:35:04.174-07:00Holy basket-of-jumping-squirrel-balls! You spastic...Holy basket-of-jumping-squirrel-balls! You spastics will quite literally tell yourselves any nutty bullshit required to cling pathetically to your ticket to Insaneville. Can you provide a count of how many goddamned times this post encourages the reader to DO THE BLASTED EXPERIMENT YOUR GODDAMMED SELF! The lengths you'll go to is seriously mind-boggling. How do you manage to get your britches on without injuring yourself? Seriously though, your arbitrary requirement of starting on a level plane comes 100% directly out of reality's disabled cousin's poo-hole. Let's take a look at just how moronic your response is, shall we?<br /><br />"All you need to do to confirm that the horizon always rises to eye level.."<br /><br />Go ahead and read over this turd of yours a few times. See if you can knuckle the stupidity out of this stupid-sandwich.. No? Try replacing "confirm that" with "artificially make", which is what your dishonest ass is ACTUALLY saying.<br /><br />"1st of all, any photographer will tell you that if your camera is level, the horizon will be exactly in the middle.."<br />Uh... Wha..? Neither his person nor his camera is NOT starting on level surface... That.. that's the GODDAMM point, you halfwit.<br /><br />"Why did you tilt your camera?"<br />Jesus... Did you READ the artical or were you distracted trying to fit your reading device in your ass with the rest of your ideas? <br /><br />"Go do it again with a level angle next time genius!"<br /><br />I have a better idea, YOU do it and report back.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075046595315552795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-12617031057178391942017-07-26T22:03:42.372-07:002017-07-26T22:03:42.372-07:00BTW, "rises to eye level" is a bit of a ...BTW, "rises to eye level" is a bit of a misnomer. It's more that it rises WITH eye level and not so much TO eye level. If we were on a ball the horizon would "fall away" not rise to. Make your camera perfectly level and you'll learn something new. It won't change your mind bc it's already made up, but you'll witness the phenomena. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12245387416961356076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-13899878741487419612017-07-26T21:58:38.476-07:002017-07-26T21:58:38.476-07:00Lots of million dollar words and mathematical equa...Lots of million dollar words and mathematical equations, is that supposed to blow us away? Are we supposed to say "wow this guy is smart he must really have this all figured out"? 1st of all, any photographer will tell you that if your camera is level, the horizon will be exactly in the middle of your shot regardless of where the shot is taken. Why did you tilt your camera? All you need to do to confirm that the horizon always rises to eye level is put your camera on a perfectly level surface and snap a picture at various heights. Every single shot will feature the horizon in the exact middle because... the horizon always rises to eye level. What a complete waste of time your test and accompanying novel was!! Go do it again with a level angle next time genius!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12245387416961356076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-71593557920317129032017-04-18T09:16:13.125-07:002017-04-18T09:16:13.125-07:00First of all, as the 'calibration' image o...First of all, as the 'calibration' image on the ground shows, the app doesn't care what angle the phone or plane is at, the reticle marks out level regardless. Secondly, those images are 36 minutes apart, the plane has moved a great distance, the Earth has rotated so the Sun is in a different part of the sky and the plane isn't even necessarily pointed in the same direction. You cannot look at some spot on the wing as an indicator of 'level'. I was very careful when I took the images to make sure the plane wasn't maneuvering. The first image WAS climbing, but the image at 38,805ft is level, steady flight.<br /><br />But the good news is YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.<br /><br />As I mentioned in my earlier comment your objections are pointless because the POINT here is to give people the METHOD so they can make their own observations. If I'm lying about the method then PROVE it. What you are doing here is the same bullshit that conspiracy theorists pull - "well, MAYBE, blah blah blah". On the chance that your comment was pre-updated images I'll leave it with this as a warning.<br /><br />DO YOUR OWN EXPERIMENTS. This one is deadass simple -- buy one cheap smartphone app. There is no excuse for failure to execute here except being disingenuous.<br /><br />If I get a chance in the future to film a cup of water along with the observations I'll do that -- it's not necessarily easy to do that however. Meanwhile, do it yourself. That's the beauty of such simple observations, you can repeat them yourself.<br /><br />So, it's been 6 months since your comment -- have you made any such observations on your own?Dark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-27531932061436633492016-10-24T10:34:54.949-07:002016-10-24T10:34:54.949-07:00I captured new images with an updated version of t...I captured new images with an updated version of the app and have updated and greatly expanded on this page now.<br /><br />I included an image to show the calibration accuracy on the ground. I actually didn't recalibrate at all because I didn't need to - it was already accurate, I just checked it on the ground.<br /><br />However, the point isn't to trust ME but to give readers METHODS where they can verify reality for themselves. Hundreds of millions of people have cameras and apps that can trivially replicate this.<br /><br />I also included Sly's analysis video on the flat earther David Ray showing his drone video and CLAIMING that the horizon is rising to Eye level when it very clearly is DROPPING off. Hoisted by his own petard.<br /><br />So... thank you for your feedback on the calibration question. However...<br /><br />>> "Note the bright spot on the wing tip is isolated and if we were level the whole wing should be more consistent."<br /><br />This is false and has zero basis in reality. The shape and relative angle to the wing would determine the pattern of spectacular reflections off the wing - the rotation of the plane would only change the relative angle from what it HAPPENED to be at that moment - which you have no information about so your assertion here is just making things up. Before you try making things up again you should be prepared to show your calculations supporting such assertions.<br /><br />In future criticism please don't make things up.<br /><br />Hope you like the updated pageDark Starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356850749159919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3367618069880256082.post-37632495315173121982016-10-13T04:17:08.983-07:002016-10-13T04:17:08.983-07:00It seems the plane is banking and the app was prob...It seems the plane is banking and the app was probably calibrated to level flight. Note the bright spot on the wing tip is isolated and if we were level the whole wing should be more consistent. fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04859578055187477203noreply@blogger.com